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I hear that because down feathers are so delicate, a down sleeping bag that has gotten a ton of use or rough use has significantly less insulating performance -- the feathers are broken down into bits that don't provide as much loft.

But old military down sleeping bags are so cheap on ebay! I want to buy like ten of them!

Can someone provide first-hand experience of how much the insulating performance changes when a down bag has been roughly used?

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Down is actually a pretty durable insulation, and if it is properly cared for will last much longer than any synthetic insulation. Some people use the same down sleeping bag for decades, but there are a lot of variables at play, and maintaining a down sleeping bag is a bit of an art form.

When you buy a used down sleeping bag you will want to know:

Here's a brief article that outlines some things to take into consideration when deciding whether an older/vintage sleeping bag is still usable.

If I were to buy a used down bag, I would definitely want to know whether the sleeping bag has been laundered regularly (a good thing--to reduce the build-up of dirt and body oils), and what kind of cleaner was used. Detergents destroy down's loft by coating the feathers and causing them to stick together/compress. Dry cleaning is equally bad, because it strips down of its natural oils, also reducing its loft and insulative power.

As for an example, a friend of mine who has had a 20-degree Fahrenheit bag for about five years now will only use the same bag down to ~32 degrees Fahrenheit. This bag has seen extensive use on long, multi-week and multi-month backpacking trips in humid climates. The bag's owner says that using down-specific soap such as Nikwax revives loft temporarily but the bag will never return to a like-new state.

Another consideration to take into account with the military surplus type bags: part of what influences the price of sleeping bags is the fill power of the down (700, 800, 850, etc.). Higher fill power down provides more loft, and therefore more warmth per weight. It is also more costly. Army sleeping bags, where cost savings are generally more important than weight savings, are most likely using a relatively low fill power down. Also, if down appeals to you for its outstanding warmth-to-weight ratio, remember that if the sleeping bag uses a very heavy shell material (as is often the case with older gear), it cancels out some of the weight savings of using down fill.

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